Dealing with Latency
Im going to be springing for the new Mac Pro 8 core. It will be a huge difference Im sure over the my dual g4. I currently use The UAD-1 card and the TCPowercore card for great FX that dont hit the computer processor. Those cards, however, have slight latency based on the way the computer buffer is set. It doesnt bother me for most applications, however putting an effect on a live drum track(like just on the snare) will give you a slight flamming effect when played along with the overhead mics.. Has anyone else noticed this? And does the newer versions of MACs and these cards deal with this issue? What is the work around? FYI my buffer setting is at 128samples.
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Permalink Reply by Dave Bechtel on -
What DAW are you using? PT le? There is no automatic Plug-in delay compensation in PT le:( I run Nuendo on a dual G5 1.8 with a UAD and TC card and it hums along quite nicely on large track count sessions.
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Permalink Reply by Michael Whittaker on -
I use Digital Performer 5.12..its supposed to have automatic compensation...Maybe it doesnt work that great? Can you insert an eq on a snare and have no audible flam through a card?
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Permalink Reply by Dave Bechtel on
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"Can you insert an eq on a snare and have no audible flam through a card?"
Yep.
I don't know much about DP. Anyone here know about DP?
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Permalink Reply by Robert W Brown on -
I am DP user!
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Permalink Reply by Steven Beers on -
When you deal with cards like that, there is not a way to get rid of the delay. All you can hope for is that the software delays the other tracks to match it. That only causes delays in the drummer's ears though, and if you get higher than a handful of samples, he's going to start complaining about it. It takes the computer and Powercore cards a certain amount of time to input, analyze, then output the signal. There is no way around that.
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Permalink Reply by Michael Whittaker on
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Thats what I figured..I hope the new 8core will let me run everything on the computer since it has so much power?
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Permalink Reply by Dave Bechtel on
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O.k. hang on a sec. are you talking about tracking or mixing with the Plug-ins?
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Permalink Reply by Michael Whittaker on
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Mixing...I dont track with plug ins
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Permalink Reply by jb on -
Huh? Maybe I'm misunderstanding your question.. If you're talking about mixing then DP should compensate automatically. Logic does, with my UAD card, and I'm running it on an antique "Legacy" Dual 1Gig machine. I've never used DP, but check in your preferences to see if there's an item you can check to activate PDC. There is in Logic.. when it's unchecked, I get high latency from UAD's as well as lots of other plug ins, but when it's activated, everything plays in sync.
You shouldn't have to dupe/slide anything.
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Permalink Reply by Bob Olhsson on -
You've just learned one of the biggest reasons why Digi's HD systems are so popular!
The best way I've found to get around it is to split the mikes and send them to the headphone mixer along with everything other than the mikes from the computer. Latency is a big big deal to a performer although many don't realize it's a major reason it takes them so long to get a decent take. And this includes with an HD system!
Automatic latency compensation just delays everything the maximum amount which is fine for mixing but a trainwreck for overdubbing.
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