Who's doing lots of long distance collaboration?
I'm curious who is doing a lot of recording collaboration with players or producers in other cities, states, countries? I know we have lots of talent here and people from all over the world come here for it. I'm not just talking about sending music tracks out but also bringing music tracks in.
For instance, I have a friend in India who offered to have his studio players do overdubs (authentic Indians on authentic instruments) on a song we were recording here. Pretty cool.
So, show of hands? Any tips for finding talent or work outside of Nashville? Any pointers on what to do vs. what not to do, just as far as practical technical matters?
Thanks,
Lynn Fuston
For instance, I have a friend in India who offered to have his studio players do overdubs (authentic Indians on authentic instruments) on a song we were recording here. Pretty cool.
So, show of hands? Any tips for finding talent or work outside of Nashville? Any pointers on what to do vs. what not to do, just as far as practical technical matters?
Thanks,
Lynn Fuston
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Permalink Reply by Ron Shore on -
I have been doing projects for about 5 years via, ftp or fedx, sending session files back and forth. now we are using digidelivery and using live cams [ustream, skype, etc.] to collaborate live. i have been working on a real time software for sometime, but as the internet pipeline, is not fast enough yet, it still is a beta, soon come.....
not as good as being in the same room, but if i have a client in London, and me in LA, it works just fine for everyone....
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Permalink Reply by Peter Young on
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Hello - I've been recording many good projects over the internet with clients in the US , Scotland and the UK the past 3 years as well as drum tracks the past 6 yr here in the states. It's certainly a big part of my career. i'm looking into getting the video thing going on as well. I see there are many different options as the others have stated......best. peter
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Permalink Reply by John Carroll on -
www.thestudiovillage.com Check it out!
Cheers!
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Permalink Reply by Lance Martin on
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I've been doing bass tracks for several people from around the world. I done trax for an Australian producer, that come out fairly well, and I've done some stuff for a guy in Newfoundland, and various one-offs. So far, I've not been advertising, but I may soon start. I use the same bass rack I take to outside studios, and I've got my own ftp for sending and receiving. So far, most clients seem to work out differently.
I think the biggest difference with doing bass tracks remotely, is the humility and willingness to recut some songs several times. Unlike working in person, it's easy to go in the wrong direction musically for an entire song, and then find out after the track is sent, if I'm creating a whole new track. Sometimes I'm just expected to replace a loose or out of tune track, which is when it's easy.. In traditional country, parts can be fairly predictable, but much of the stuff I've been doing is rock-oriented. And, in one case, the original vision didn't work within the mix as expected/hoped, and we went in a different direction. When living in different time zones, it can be a longer process because of different work/sleep times. My goal is to always please the client, and in the end, it pays off in repeat work.
But, when doing trax in my studio, I'm able to fine-tune a part in a way I'm never able to when I work live in the studio. Also, I'm able to use some different preamps. My travel rack I carry an API 512c, but in my studio I've got Neve, Avalon, GrooveTube, TC Electronics, and some custom pres. that I can use in parallel or instead of.
I think being musically open and flexible is one of the more important things, besides having clean, quiet gear, a variety of basses that can play in tune, and a good understanding of different aspects of the computer and ftp and PayPal.
But I thoroughly enjoy the entire process, almost more than the traditional live session. (Holler if you need any bass trax!!)
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Permalink Reply by Deb Thomas on
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as a vocalist, I have been working over the internet for years. I am interested in the ustream as it would give my clients the ability to "listen" with their eyes. Never mind the delay, they wouldn't be recording anything on their end unless we were using source connect (check that out on the web)...
I have used Esession and they also has a new thing called virtual glass. If you work through their sight, it is a free plugin.
My clients have been everywhere and yes, Smyrna to Murfreesboro counts as well! But it always looks better when you drop in Australia, Guatemala, France, England, New York, Detroit and Vancouver! I would say 90% of my business is now home studio/internet clients.
Deb
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Permalink Reply by Rory Hoffman on
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I do lots of work for people remotely. Just finished a song on which the writer and guitar player was from Cali, I played sax, and the percussionist/bassist was from Mexico. I've done work for a guy in Sweden, and am currently talking to a guy from Australia about a project.
Sometimes I'm just adding one track, sometimes producing an entire song, and sending it over ftp. Often what I will do is send a low-bit mp3 mix of my work, so the client can hear what I've done and approve or request changes. But I usually don't put up the full .wav until I've been paid, or unless it's a client I know or have worked with who I feel I can trust.
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Permalink Reply by Randy Harper on -
I live in Duluth Ga (northeast of ATL) and I do keyboard o'dubs for clients in Ohio where I lived for many years as well as cross-town clients and bands. While I would love to collaborate with some of you in Nashville, I know keyboard pickers abound! However...
Lynn to contribute to your thread...
While I prefer native project WAV or AIFF references and a separate click track. Some clients upload their entire PT or Logic project to their FTP or mine (It takes a while!!!) This is fine when working with smaller projects, but can really take a lot of upload and download time. My least favorite way to receive tracks is mp3. If a client has no way to send WAV's or AIFF's I will accept mp3's, BUT I always ask for at least a 192kbs file. At least that gives me a less-compressed version to work with.
Always bounce your finished tracks form the head of the session... Never bounce just a verse or chorus. I know this sounds crazy, but I've actually had to sync and piece stuff together with time stamp... and still had to move them around in the session.
Also, unless you're absolutely sure of what your client wants, give them several takes to work with. If I'm pickin' on a country tune, I usually do a rhythm pass, a fill pass or two, and a what-if pass with solos and the likes. Most producers/engineers like options... I've actually had a producer pull another instrument's fills for the what-if pass...
Lastly, NEVER send mp3's of your finished tracks... Only mixed as a reference.. Get an idisk account or ftp account and upload native WAVs.
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Permalink Reply by Kurt Howell on -
Hi, Lynn, I am currently producing two differnt records bi coastly. La singer songerwriter Alex Davidson
with Tony Shepperd engineering vocals, tracks cut at Soneria recorders with , Curt Bisquera drums , Reggie Hamilton ,Bass and from Miami with Dan Warner on GTR. Also Julia Santa' Latino / Hip Hop act from Havana via LA. Tracks in Miami with once again Dan Warner on GTR, and lots of Miami guys , perc, horns etc...LA tracks with programmed with Randy Emata and Alex Teamer, and myself, with Tony once again engineering BGV's. Digidedelivery tracks, All editing and pre mixing in Brentwood. Plus Marshall Graphics during the day.... Life with many hats, the only way to fly
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Permalink Reply by Kurt Howell on
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May 7th: The Topics For "Pro Tools Tips and Tricks" event will be Recording over the internet. The focus will be using Source Elements Products with your D.A.W., Our Case study will involve working on a 30 spot for an radio add of an upcoming Cd release. It will cover the Producer here in Nashville, Guitar Session in Miami and Vocals in LA. All at the same time. All with out ISDN lines, just high speed Comcast type service, not a T1 line, just the internet we all have. The one hour clinic will show how to use I chat, Source Connect and ( Digidelivery or I disk) to exchange ideas and audio files LIVE. Finished with a 30sec jingle. All in the one hour clinic. The precess wroks great fro song writing, editing mixes and even getting Mix approval from A n R deptmartments. A MUST See. Limited seating and we will be streamed over this web site under events as always and Mix Magazines Web site, Techbreakfast web site and Source Elements Site as well.
This months Clinic April 2ed is covering Pro Tools Video Satallite. A great way to work on Video clips and write music without taxing your host computer system... See you all on the web.
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Permalink Reply by Ross Sermons on
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As I am slowly equipping my modest Mbox studio with good mics and pre I have picked up a surprising amount of work without promoting it very hard at the moment. I have the best amps for recording electric bass but it is mostly upright I am working with at home. I attribute it in part to the amazing talents of Bluegrass and Folk oriented players that live in remote areas outside of Nashville that simply need a bass player that can deliver the goods to their projects. We all know about the guitar, fiddle, mando ect prodigies out there in the woods but not so much the bass players in this genre.
Working from home also allows for more time to hone the groove and not be held to first or second take. If you are not going to do it 'live' in the studio this is a fantastic way to go. The extra time spent with each tune allows me to give the absolute best track I can give. Thanks that was a great question!
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Permalink Reply by Jim Colyer on -
it's amazing what can be done these days. You can make entire albums with people you have never met and never will meet.
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Permalink Reply by Doug Budzak on -
Looks like we're going to try some LD collaboration for our newest demo. My voice just doesn't cut it for certain songs, and this is one of them ;-) I'm looking at some guys @ esession, any other good place to check out?
Thanks,
Doug
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