I'm setting up to record a live worship event for a College campus ministry. I did the same thing last year and recently produced and mixed the project. The crowd is very much a part of the recording so this year I want to give myself more options on crowd mics.

The room is approx 2100 seats and will be full of energetic college kids. There is a lower section of 500 seats then stadium seating to fill out the rest.

Last year I used the in house hanging mics and added two of my own. My two were cardioid condensors on the stage facing into the room. I would have used a pair of shotguns on each side if I had access to any.

The house mics are about halfway back in the lower section hanging 15 feet over the crowd and away from stage.

When I mixed I used 70% stage mics, 30% hanging mics.

This year I also have a pair of 414's. I was thinking of setting them in the stadium seats on either side of the sound board and setting them up in omni.

 

So give me you opinions.

1st: If you could mic the room any way you wanted possibly to mix in 5.1 as well as stereo, what would you do and use?

 

2nd: With the 3 pairs of mics I listed (hanging choir mics, cardioid condensors and 414's), how would you set it up. Keep in mind I cannot move the house mics that are hanging.

I could also add a single Shure KSM44 somewhere.

Thanks!

Garrett

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look into double mid side technique as a cool 5.1 ambience array...
I love that but I don't have enough mics that match! Low budget conference. College kids don't have any money :)
Shotguns right over the sound system aimed at the audience will minimize bleed and delay from the sound system. That bleed is usually the biggest limit on how much audience you can bring up in the mix.

I know you don't have a rental budget but you should pony up the dough and rent the Holophone from Blackbird. Simply amazing - 7 channels, single point phase aligned, automatic surround sound source, no hassels, seriously.

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You'll generally get better results keeping the mics closer to the stage. The audience is more energetic, Too far back and they'll become slap-echo mics. Of course, this means that you'll have more PA bleed, but filtering the low end and keeping the mics out of the PA directionality will go a long way towards fixing those issues.

What do they charge? That looks amazing



Bret Teegarden said:

I know you don't have a rental budget but you should pony up the dough and rent the Holophone from Blackbird. Simply amazing - 7 channels, single point phase aligned, automatic surround sound source, no hassels, seriously.

http://www.fullcompass.com/product/330958.html

Not sure and their website doesn't list prices. But give Rolff a call and tell him I sent you. He'll make it worth trying out.  

Garrett Hestla said:

What do they charge? That looks amazing



Bret Teegarden said:

I know you don't have a rental budget but you should pony up the dough and rent the Holophone from Blackbird. Simply amazing - 7 channels, single point phase aligned, automatic surround sound source, no hassels, seriously.

http://www.fullcompass.com/product/330958.html

Rolff is great. He really went out of the way to get and keep my business.

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