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Permalink Reply by Bret Teegarden on February 24, 2011 at 10:12am

I've been using Shoeps CMS-5s w/MK4 capsules (I believe) a lot lately to record choirs and they sound incredible but they are $1500-2500 a pair. I do know that Peluso makes a knock-off version of these mics for less than $800 a pair.

 

http://www.pelusomicrophonelab.com/CEMC6SK.html

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Permalink Reply by Garrett Hestla on February 24, 2011 at 12:01pm

These are too big. I'm hanging 7 of these in front of screens so small profile is a must. Have you ever used them?

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Permalink Reply by Pete Warren on March 11, 2011 at 11:48am

I've never seen a hanging choir.  Does that help isolate the sound of one singer from the other by reducing the vibrations from their body through the floor?  

 

But seriously, perhaps an easier way to tackle the problem is not by changing the mics, but changing something else in the chain?  What pre's are you using for them?  Sometimes the right EQ?  I find the crowns to be pretty transparent sounding, which means it's a shapable sound.  I just know it's a major deal to install mics in the application you're talking about.  And it's pretty easy to swop pre's or even easier to eq it right.  I think most of the mics of the type your describing in that price range are probably no better than what you have, unless you're willing and able to move the budget up quite a bit.  I think you'll find any mic swop in that price range to yield a result that is less than satisfactory in achieving your goal of warmth in the sound.  Also, what about the acoustics of the room?  Sometimes the rooms are so bright sounding that if you fix that one issue there, you can fix a host of other issues.  Two birds, one baffle.  

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Permalink Reply by Garrett Hestla on March 14, 2011 at 1:33pm

That's good Pete. The only mic I found that was an option was the DPA4098. These are approx $500 each.

I'm using an older Yamaha M3000 console for pre's so yeah, that doesn't help the over all sound. I'm looking at maybe losing the M3000 and swapping it with an Allen & Heath mix wizard. Slightly better sounding EQ and a whole lot less space. This is my slave console. I have an M3000 40 channel as master.
Pete Warren said:

I've never seen a hanging choir.  Does that help isolate the sound of one singer from the other by reducing the vibrations from their body through the floor?  

 

But seriously, perhaps an easier way to tackle the problem is not by changing the mics, but changing something else in the chain?  What pre's are you using for them?  Sometimes the right EQ?  I find the crowns to be pretty transparent sounding, which means it's a shapable sound.  I just know it's a major deal to install mics in the application you're talking about.  And it's pretty easy to swop pre's or even easier to eq it right.  I think most of the mics of the type your describing in that price range are probably no better than what you have, unless you're willing and able to move the budget up quite a bit.  I think you'll find any mic swop in that price range to yield a result that is less than satisfactory in achieving your goal of warmth in the sound.  Also, what about the acoustics of the room?  Sometimes the rooms are so bright sounding that if you fix that one issue there, you can fix a host of other issues.  Two birds, one baffle.  

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