This Needs To Be Addressed
I don't want to single anyone out and this ad on Facebook does not say who the advertiser is, but, I wonder if the kids setting up studio businesses like this really understand what they are doing to their credibility and the perception the public has of the recording services market.
I know pricing is all over the place and we live in a very competitive market, but really! I can understand under cutting the market at $35 and hour for a studio and engineer, but working for $20/hr late at night and $10/hr on weekends? The only message they send with this ad is "we are desperate AND stupid"
I am making the assumption that the kids (and I mean kids) that put this ad up, went to some kind of music business or recording school.
Did they really learn nothing about business in the school they went to?
I hate to see them fail, but they will, if they have any kind of overhead or are not on some kind of government assistance, mark my word.
I know pricing is all over the place and we live in a very competitive market, but really! I can understand under cutting the market at $35 and hour for a studio and engineer, but working for $20/hr late at night and $10/hr on weekends? The only message they send with this ad is "we are desperate AND stupid"
I am making the assumption that the kids (and I mean kids) that put this ad up, went to some kind of music business or recording school.
Did they really learn nothing about business in the school they went to?
I hate to see them fail, but they will, if they have any kind of overhead or are not on some kind of government assistance, mark my word.
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Permalink Reply by Greg Hopkins on -
I thought we were trying not to specify exactly which studio this is....
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Permalink Reply by J.R. McNeely on
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For the record, that was NOT my intention. It was to point out that the photo is NOT from a music row studio. And these guys most certainly do NOT own Dark Horse. And Dark Horse would NEVER do something as rediculous as this.
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Permalink Reply by Bret Teegarden on -
all things come to light - eventually....
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Permalink Reply by MArc-Alan Barnette on -
They tend to be here today and gone tomorrow. The big thing about doing demo work in a town full of writers and artists and HIGH quality demos (The major league writers are doing things that sound like records) is that the lower quality are weeded out very early when it comes to pitches. The problems that the young people doing this have is experience and skills. It takes years to learn the craft and they don't have it. And you can tell the level very quickly. You can have the best equipment in the world and if you don't have the craft you are weeded out with the other thousands of songs that don't make the grade.
After people do that for a while they stop doing it when there is very poor results. It is part of the process. The people doing it find that it is so time consuming they never have enough forward momentum. Which is why they go out of business much faster than getting in business.
An interesting and humorous thing I have been seeing is the amount of interns that come to the studios in town. they are paying enoromous amounts of money to places like Full Sail, SAE, MTSU, Vanderbilt, etc. and they intern (free labor) in the studios because the studios often get tax incentives to work with the educational systems. Then when they graduate they go back to that studio thinking they can get a job and find they are replaced by ANOTHER intern.
The process repeats.
MAB
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Permalink Reply by Greg Hopkins on
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That's great insight.
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Permalink Reply by Bob Olhsson on -
My view is that this is inevitable when you've defined making a record as overdubbing everything. I'm still rubbing my eyes in disbelief at the number of people who honestly believe that this is "the professional way to record."
Modern technology is actually amazing for early '60s style ensemble recordings without headphones. There's a lot to be said for taking up the challenge and going right back to our roots. I'm also not sure that giving young artists endless technological crutches is doing their careers a favor.
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Permalink Reply by Matt McClure on -
Love it! Agreed! Now if I could just convince my clients of this, how great this would be. :-)
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Permalink Reply by Bob Olhsson on
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True, it takes guts but so does real performing.
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Permalink Reply by Paul Marquissee on -
I have actually met the person/studio in question here... I met him through my attempts at acquainting myself with the studios and engineers in town. I met him at his "studio" one day. First, it took me about 15 minutes to actually find the place. He shares the brick building right on the left hand corner across from ASCAP. I was finally let in by the guy who owns the CD duplication company in the same building. He didn't even know there was a recording studio in the building.
My meeting didn't go any smoother. This guy went to Full Sail, got his degree and then did a couple internships at (yes Dark Horse, so that is indeed NOT his studio in the picture.) I didn't learn a lick from him in my brief interview with him. Needless to say, I haven't spoken with him since.
He also has a bunch of videos on youtube "reviewing" audio equipment... I got a good laugh. RainKingRecording is the name of his channel and studio.
Cheers!
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Permalink Reply by Randy Janoski on
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In the larger scheme of things I don't think any professional studio and/or engineer need worry much. An artist (I would hope) has more sense than even to look or talk with with those individuals. I would put it into the realm of "kids working with other kids".
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Permalink Reply by Bob Olhsson on
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This is true. Artists are betting their career on who they work with. It's easy to forget that.
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Permalink Reply by Dave Bechtel on -
I think it's somewhat ironic that there's a guy that's advertising on this site that he'll mix a song for $90. Guess he missed this thread ;)
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